South Africa, Democracy, and the dangers of Demographics (pt. 2)

See part 1 here.

So how have the 20 yeas since apartheid ended benefited South Africa?

Certainly it has benefited some people. Many black, Indian, or mixed-race people who were shut out of the economic system, land holding, etc., have become wealthy or at least middle class:

1994 = end of apartheid
1994 = end of apartheid

On the other hand, rising GDP looks like it’s more of a global trend than a specifically SA one.

Tim Stanley, of The Telegraph, weighs in on the “Things have gotten better” side:

“South Africa has held four free national elections – a massive achievement in a country of 53 million people. There are now fair courts and civil rights. Yes, there is corruption and current President Jacob Zuma is often accused of it. But there is also a free press and oversight. As a result, South Africa has fallen from the 38th most corrupt country in 2001 to the 72nd today. And in the 2013 election, there were signs of the emergence of pluralism thanks to a cross-racial democratic alliance headed by Helen Zille, premier of the Western Cape. …

“the economy has doubled in real terms and South Africa is now the economic super power of the region. Not only is this proof that an African economy can be run efficiently as part of the global community but it’s also a model that many other countries are following – with enormous success. With booms in minerals and telecommunications, African capitalism is in the ascendant. …

“But crime was always high under Apartheid – it’s just that a media blackout meant that it went unreported. Drugs, drink and gangs were common in the shanties, the product of decades of brutal marginalisation. This historic legacy combined with failed expectations after the end of Apartheid to produce an explosion of violence that exposed the white community, for the first time, to serious crime.” (emphasis added)

According to NPR, Desmond Tutu is more ambivalent:

“‘I didn’t think there would be a disillusionment so soon. I’m glad that (Nelson Mandela) is dead. I’m glad that most of these people are no longer alive to see this,’ a reference to a host of chronic problems such as corruption and poverty.”

WND (World Net Daily?) an organization whose credibility I don’t know, claims that South Africa is in free fall. By contrast, the BBC claims that South Africa has been almost incomparably successful since the end of apartheid. The Economist, though, is less cheerful, “Sad South Africa: South Africa is sliding downhill while much of the rest of the continent is clawing its way up,” arguing that South Africa has seen less economic growth than the rest of the African continent since the end of apartheid, and so is effectively under-performing. And in Business Tech, University of Witwatersrand Vice-Chancellor Adam Habib says that, “South Africa is unraveling– and no one seems to care.” (Since he is actually from SA, I trust his opinion a little more than the others.)

SA’s overall Human Development Index score has fallen since apartheid ended in 1994:



And here’s life expectancy:

1994 = end of apartheid
1994 = end of apartheid

Many people attribute the collapse in life expectancy in SA to AIDS, but statistically, the only way that many people are catching AIDS is if the vast majority of people in SA are having unprotected sex with hundreds of other people, which is both incredibly stupid and incredibly easy not to do, so yes, I lay full blame for declining life expectancies on the people engaged in life-shortening behaviors and the government that has failed to stop the epidemic ravaging its own people.

Obviously the crime rate is through the roof.

Picture 11

Graph is labeled incorrectly since apartheid ended in 1994, but you can still see the general trend. Violent-crimes2

Violent-crimes Robbery-with-aggravating-circumstances1

source: Africa Check
source: Africa Check

SA has one of the world’s highest murder rates (at least outside of Latin America,) one of if not the highest rape rate, and I hear it has the world’s highest rate of infant rape.

I have heard that there is a myth in South Africa that having sex with a virgin will cure AIDS, so often when a man discovers that he has AIDS, he goes and pays a local family for the right to have sex with one of their daughters. If the AIDS doesn’t clear up, then obviously the daughter wasn’t a virgin, and the family is compelled to offer up someone younger, more likely to be a virgin. If the youngest daughter happens to be a baby, then the youngest daughter happens to be a baby. This process continues until the AIDS goes away or you run out of daughters.

Source: Human Science Research Council
Source: Human Science Research Council

In my research, I have talked to people who live in South Africa and love it there, and people who live in South Africa and are terrified. I have read posts claiming that South Africa is thriving and on the upswing, and posts claiming that the whole place is a post-apocalyptic nightmare.

And I’ve seen a lot of pictures of burned out, broken, boarded-up buildings and trash:

cnr_rockey_bezuidenhout southstreet bezuidenhout_lookingtorockey yeoville_house streetscene_yeoville

These are photos taken and uploaded by “The Real Realist” during a drive through Yeoburg, formerly one of the trendiest neighborhoods in Johannesburg. Now it is decayed, broken, boarded up, and overflowing with trash.

In other words, it looks like Detroit.

But maybe it always looked like that. Here are pictures Real Realist took of the Johannesburg Jewish Museum:

Jewish Museum of Johannasburg

Jewish Museum of Johannasburg
I bet it didn’t look like that back when it was a museum.

There are hundreds more such photos and stories. Go and look for yourself.

Some more perspectives:

(Pay attention especially around 42 minutes in)

I find this interesting because I first heard about something like this in a Reddit thread I ran across while looking for photos of South Africa. I can’t even find the thread, now, but someone in it described a phenomenon whereby a occupied business building (occupied by people doing business, I mean) would suddenly be invaded by hundreds of people (and their chickens) who had suddenly decided to live there. This of course made it difficult to do business anymore, so all of the business people had to relocate elsewhere. Meanwhile, the squatters, not knowing exactly how the buildings worked, would throw their trash and excrement into the elevator shafts. When the shafts filled up, the people moved on.

The only way to get rid of these squatters was by hiring small armies of men (the police will not do it,) to physically remove them in the middle of the night (being asleep makes it difficult to fight back,) and then the building gets surrounded by barbed wire and crews have to come in to thoroughly clean it before it can become an office building or anything else again.

I wrote this off as “unverifiable rumor” until I found this Christian Science Monitor Slideshow (see #15) with a photo of one of the men tasked with cleaning out these hijacked buildings:

Picture 1

Let’s talk demographics:

Population density map of South Africa (from Wikipedia)
Population density map of South Africa (from Wikipedia)

According to Wikipedia, when the Brits arrived in SA, the Cape colony had roughly 25,000 slaves, 20,000 white colonists, 15,000 Khoisan, and 1,000 freed black slaves. However, that data is marked, “citation needed.” If we trust it, though, whites were, at the time, roughly 1/3 (33%) of the population.

Source: The Economist
Source: The Economist

If we squint, it looks like whites were just over 1/6th of the population in 1910–probably around 20%. By 1990, they had fallen to about 11%. Today, they’re at 9%.

What happens when you become a tiny minority in the country your ancestors built?

You lose it.

There is no practical way for 9% of the population in a “democratic” country to control the other 91%.

Love it or hate it, a country belongs to the people in it.

Yes, the whites saw this coming. They knew the demographics. They were even trying to encourage family planning, which was moderately successful:

Source: South African Regional Policy Network
Source: South African Regional Policy Network

Sorry, Boers. (And Brits.) You ran into a 3,000 year old unstoppable Bantu migration wave and lost. Your buildings will be burned and looted, the wealth your ancestors created, murdered for and died for will be taken by people who have no idea how to maintain it, and your entire country will crumble away. A few of you remain, in walled-off communities supplied by private roads, electricity, water, and police. If you don’t get killed, well, you might have a pretty good life.

One of the things I’ve found interesting about the Boers, during all this research, is how much they remind me of a lot of the NRx/alt-right/Moldbuggian types. The Cape Colony began, after all, as a corporation, founded by the Dutch East India Company. When the British took over the Cape, many of the Dutch, rather than deal with someone telling them what to do, decided to take the exit option and go found a new state. This was no trivial undertaking, and required (among other things,) militarily defeating the Zulus, starting a new country from scratch in the middle of nowhere, and fighting off the British.

They eventually failed because they were numerically overwhelmed by the British, both migrants they had allowed into their country and troops sent from abroad. Exit is useless if you do not or cannot secure your own territory.

There’s a fail state to democracy, which Malema so succinctly identified: long term, you don’t need to wage a war to take over a democratic country. You just have to out-breed your opposition.

Given a finite planet, (which we have,) breeding wars can only end in catastrophe. But the other option–not playing–means losing your country.

Could you get around this by simply not being a democracy? Saudi Arabia doesn’t let women vote, but I don’t see anyone putting pressure on them to change their ways. Singapore also manages to be a pretty decent place, (though it is tiny,) due to what looks like good management. Bring back the old Dutch East India Company. Let those who buy stock be shareholders; let the company buy what it can and manage it for the sake of its owners.

Conclusion: only let people into your country whom you like and would hypothetically be willing to marry and have kids with. Keeping a large population of subjugated people is impractical and cruel. If you don’t want them to be equals, give them their own country to do with as they please.

With a leadership that looks toward Zimbabwe as a model, I expect South Africa to look ever more like Zimbabwe.


But hey, the Afrikaners were racists.

20 thoughts on “South Africa, Democracy, and the dangers of Demographics (pt. 2)

  1. Seems like they did better as hunger gatherers and they had more richer cultures and their lands had greater natural beauty. Their huts and villages looks better than the trashheap of the cities they created. Nor were their premodern dwelling places filled with modern trash.

    They are not made for modernity. They missed the medieval transitional period necessary.


    • Hunter-gatherer trash tends to be bio-degradable and difficult to produce in large quantities. Industrial societies produce massive quantities of trash, more than the old methods of disposal can handle.

      Everyone wants to live in modern infrastructure–buildings, roads, plumbing, regular trash collection–sound great in the abstract, but people don’t seem to understand that these things are not just granted by the magical wishing genii and require actual maintenance and upkeep or else they will fall apart. If you want to live in a country that looks and operates like Japan, say, then you will have to adopt Japanese culture and act like the Japanese. If you want a country that looks like Kuwait, then you have to adopt Kuwaiti culture and act like Kuwaitis. Of course this may not be technically possible, but it seems that people have simply given up on the pretense of trying. “Assimilation is not progress!” shout my SJW-infected acquaintances. Instead they move into a building, throw trash all over the place, and then act surprised when it’s full of trash.

      On some gut level, I still can’t understand why people don’t just walk over to the trash can. A piece of trash on the ground bugs me, like a psychic itch that must be scratched.


  2. South African gov’t gave its nukes back to Britain before ending Apartheid.

    If everybody is armed with guns, but one side has a breeding war and the other side doesn’t, then the side that bothers to fight wins.


  3. You’re looking at this history with an inbuilt bias, as we all do. Let me add some of mine. For example, you do not factor in the death toll of the wars in Mozambique and Angola sponsored by the Apartheid state. And Inkatha also had dubious origins in the state. It’s also plain wrong to argue the ANC was/is communist, but that’s an article in itself (look up PAC, for example).
    Your conclusion comes from that bias. An influx of immigrants you are not “willing to marry” is only a threat if you want to preserve your race, not your culture. But cultures always change – the US does not have the same culture it had in 1950, never mind 1850. It’s easy to blame outsiders for change but that does not stand up to the facts. Japan is changing fast but has no immigration to speak of. Kuwait is Americanising, also without immigration. Immigrants move to a place because they admire the culture, as a rule. Blacks were treated as less than human in Apartheid South Africa. It will take many generations before those scars heal. The Confederate flag controversy shows the US is still picking at its 150-year-old scars. Believing certain people are sub-human – that they want to live among trash, for example – is not an intellectual hypothesis. Some people said the slaves could never be civilised. (Some people still do, but we have a word for that.) Everyone wants the same life you have, with allowances for their culture and religion, whether it’s Italians wanting pizza, Irish wanting folk music and Catholic mass, or Latinos wanting soccer. Eventually, these things are absorbed into the culture and we move on to moaning about the next set of changes. That’s when we know we’re getting old: “Those criminal rock’n’rollers with their quiffs and motorbikes!”
    Oh, and read this on rape of infants:


    • Hello and welcome to my blog; thank you for your perspective and the link. I have a few comments in return.

      “An influx of immigrants you are not “willing to marry” is only a threat if you want to preserve your race, not your culture.”

      This does not make sense to me. Intermarrying with immigrants destroys your “race”–by creating a new one. If I married a Japanese person, our kids wouldn’t be white or Asian; they’d be mixed. But “racial purity” is not one of my concerns; I have no objections to inter-racial marriage. I am concerned with creating a civilization that actually functions, where people are happy and get along. This requires that newcomers and oldsters mesh well, and “would you be willing to marry the average person from this society?” seems like a pretty good test of how well the groups mesh. If people don’t inter-marry, then the result is multiple different societies trying to coexist in the same space, which leads to resource competition and ethnic violence.

      I suspect that most immigrants do not move because they admire the culture of their new country, but because they are trying to escape hardship at home; if they admired the new culture, they could just adopt it at home without enduring the hardship of migrating. The history of migration shows some cases where newcomers meshed well and eventually merged into their new societies, and some cases where the newcomers meshed very badly. The influx of European immigrants to North America worked out very badly for the Native Americans. The Euros did not migrate because they wanted to adopt Native culture, and resource competition (over land) ended with the Euros massacring the Indians and driving them into tiny reservations.

      English immigrants to SA didn’t adopt Boer culture. Instead, they stuck the Boers in concentration camps.

      I don’t care about “racial purity”; I care about not getting herded into a concentration camp, and I respect everyone else’s right to care about that, too.

      “Blacks were treated as less than human in Apartheid South Africa. It will take many generations before those scars heal.” Jews were treated as less than human in Germany during the Holocaust, but they aren’t chopping up Germans with machetes and stuffing them into freezers.
      The Pygmies are being treated as sub-human right now by folks in the DRC, but nobody gives a crap about them. People care more about gorillas than they do about Pygmies.
      I see no consistency.

      No one wants to live among trash. But when people do live among their own trash, it’s because they dumped it there instead of in the trashcan, which tends to piss off their neighbors. No one cares whether their neighbors like tacos or pizza, but they care a lot about where they dump their trash and how likely they are to kill them. A lot of conflict could probably be avoided by everyone having the same ideas about trashcan use.


    • The whole entire thrust of what Jon said is wrong. It would have been much shorter if he would have just said,”White people are evil and you should hate them”.


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  5. Hi Evolutionistx,

    I am very close with an Afrikaner family. They rarely talked about South African politics growing up. However, once I was an adult and started to appreciate how horribly skewed the US narrative about White South Africa was, I asked why the Whites didn’t just secede. My Afrikaner friends responded with several factors, but they felt the biggest was that the Whites had become too dependent on Black labor. Once you’re accustomed to having a lot of people working for you, it’s hard to give up. Employer beware.

    PS Your GDP/cap graph at the top is in nominal terms, not real; inflation is providing the illusion of economic growth.


  6. If you want a detailed account and explanation of South Africa’s post-Apartheid decline, read RW Johnson’s How Long Will South Africa Survive (2015). He describes how South Africa’s black elite and government-dependent middle-class turned the government into a system for personal enrichment. He describes corruption so shameless it beggars belief eg: a minister who stole from the pension fund of the ANC’s armed wing, leaving the veterans in poverty, is appointed as the ambassador to the UK by Zuma. He describes how the efficient civil services and state-owned enterprises were run into the ground eg: the power company had a 25% surplus in 1994; today SA suffers from chronic power shortages.

    Interestingly he explains that this was a problem with African nationalism in general ie African freedom fighters saw government as a vehicle for personal enrichment not for governance. Hence Zimbabwe and Nigeria.


  7. I suspect the part of the video that’s now missing by Lewis Theroux is this,

    There’s a LOT of people that think just like him. We have a lot of them in the US, though probably a smaller proportion.

    It’s a tragedy what’s happening to the poor White children in South Africa. Note that there’s nobody holding fundraisers for them.

    Here’s my favorite Die Antwoord video

    The person they’re making fun of is the Jewish woman Lady Gaga. Jewish people were THE backbone of the anti-apartheid movement. They provided the funds and legal representation. Of course as soon as the Africans took charge they mostly left except for a few to control the mineral wealth.

    The Whites in South Africa should have stuck with Apartheid and deported a lot of the Blacks that were of no use to them. This is a fairly strict way of doing things but it beats being murdered and having the country fall apart. There would have been sanctions but…so what. They made a lot of stuff themselves including nuclear power plants and nuclear weapons. Newer technology like 3D printing manufacturing make this ability to thumb your nose at the world much easier. They should have held onto the nukes and threatened anyone who threatened them. There’s an excellent sci-fi book series where the South Africans do essentially that and conquer all Africa, Egypt and eventually Europe during the WWII. They are into mass slavery and genetic engineering to keep up their lead. It’s a great read if you like sci-fi.

    What’s happening in South Africa is exactly what will happen to Whites in the USA and Europe if we don’t made some hard assed choices. They may not be nice but no one else on the planet cares about nice except for Whites.


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