Legal Conclusions

I was going to write another post about Legal Systems Very Different from Ours, but it turns out that about half the book is bibliography and endnotes. There are several chapters of conclusion, but not much new worth highlighting.

The authors’ main point, I suppose, is that there are many different but still functional  legal systems; I have a slightly different theory, that legal systems, whatever their form, adjust to the needs and characters of the people using them. Of course, I also suspect that legal systems often “work” because people route around them.

This is an interesting thread on how the US legal system treats people merely accused of crimes, many of whom are, of course, innocent:


Responding to crime requires balancing between punishments harsh enough to deter serious crime, and soft enough to make people willing to report crimes.

There are a variety of disputes that break out between people that need solving but don’t rise to the level of wanting the other guy in prison–take many disputes between relatives.

There are also crimes that people don’t think the police prosecute adequately, and so have taken to prosecuting by other means–take college rape tribunals.

Beyond just “there are many valid legal systems,” I think the authors of LSVDFO would also like to propose that we can have effective legal systems that aren’t run by the state–and that perhaps such systems could be more effective than our current one.


And since LSVDFO is over, what would you like to read next?

10 thoughts on “Legal Conclusions


    Whether you should politely surrender to the police or shoot it out depends on your likelihood of getting a fair trial. The USA isn’t a communist terror state, but then neither was Russia before the Bolsheviks seized power. (Likewise, when a mob hands over a suspect to the cops instead of lynching him on the spot, it’s because they trust that he will be justly tried and punished).

    As for your employer, I don’t see how a mistaken arrest is any different from a sudden medical emergency that causes you to disappear for a few days. Not a firing offense.


  2. Hey, it’s Simon (Autisticus Maximus) here. I did leave a comment here the other day but it had to be approved by the mods and I don’t know if it you saw it, so I’ll try leaving another. I got suspended from Twitter again for the most ridiculous reasons. My profile picture of the melting Major Toht apparently ran afoul of Twitter’s policy regarding violent images, even though it’s from a movie and isn’t real. Absolutely pathetic, isn’t it? I have appealed against their decision to suspend my account, but they’re dragging their heels, of course. I’m still waiting on them, but if they don’t restore my account, I will try to create another!


      • Okay, I created a new account. I’ve been reincarnated as Autisticus Spasticus. I followed you and sent you a message. As before, follow back to ensure we can still talk even if I get locked out. I will try to temper my behaviour this time, if only because I don’t want to get banned again. If I do, I won’t be able to come back, as I will have used all three of my email addresses. Managed to re-follow everyone I’d been following before, just about. I remembered you first!


      • Basically, it’s the(heavily ghostwritten) memoirs of an Ethiopian man who grew up in Jijiga, in a fairly upper-class family during the revolution and the deposition of the emporer and many other tumultuous events in Ethiopia in the 20th century. At 18 he leaves his family to join a rebel guerilla army, eventually makes it to Europe to receive an education, and finally settles down in Canada. There’s a lot of interesting social and political history about Ethiopia and a lot of fascinating cultural stuff that I think you’d get a lot out of.

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